1 01:00:00,601 --> 01:00:03,469 ¶ 2 01:00:17,617 --> 01:00:20,753 I'D LIKE TO SEE IF I COULD OPEN A CASE UP -- 3 01:00:20,755 --> 01:00:23,022 EUGENIE BOISFONTAINE CASE. 4 01:00:23,024 --> 01:00:25,157 Reporter: TWO MONTHS AFTER SHE WENT MISSING, 5 01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:28,694 HER BODY WAS FOUND IN IBERVILLE PARISH. 6 01:00:28,696 --> 01:00:31,630 Hebert: AUBREY, I WANT YOU TO WORK WITH RODIE ON THIS. 7 01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:35,701 WHY YOU DIDN'T SOLVE IT IN '97? 8 01:00:35,703 --> 01:00:38,304 THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER. 9 01:00:38,306 --> 01:00:41,774 Hebert: BACK IN 1997, THAT'S THE SAME DAMN TIME 10 01:00:41,776 --> 01:00:44,510 THAT WE THEM [BLEEP]DAMN SERIAL KILLERS RUNNING AROUND. 11 01:00:44,512 --> 01:00:47,513 Reporter: DERRICK TODD LEE MURDERED FIVE WOMEN IN THE BATON ROUGE AREA, 12 01:00:47,515 --> 01:00:49,181 BUT THEY BELIEVE HE COULD BE INVOLVED 13 01:00:49,183 --> 01:00:50,783 IN A STRING OF OTHER MURDERS. 14 01:00:50,785 --> 01:00:53,252 AND THE ADVANCEMENT IN DNA AND ALL -- 15 01:00:53,254 --> 01:00:56,322 I THINK THE CASE CAN BE SOLVED. 16 01:00:56,324 --> 01:00:59,258 WOMAN: They had the DNA while he was there in custody. 17 01:00:59,260 --> 01:01:02,461 And he was excluded. 18 01:01:02,463 --> 01:01:05,798 Now, what we did find is that it is a mixture 19 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,268 of potentially two to three males. 20 01:01:14,207 --> 01:01:17,343 FROM THEM RESULTS, WE GOT OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US. 21 01:01:17,345 --> 01:01:20,346 ¶ 22 01:01:20,348 --> 01:01:23,349 -- Captions by VITAC -- www.vitac.com 23 01:01:23,351 --> 01:01:26,352 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 24 01:01:57,117 --> 01:02:01,053 ¶ MY GIRL, MY GIRL 25 01:02:01,055 --> 01:02:04,323 ¶ DON'T LIE TO ME 26 01:02:04,325 --> 01:02:09,728 ¶ TELL ME, WHERE DID YOU SLEEP LAST NIGHT? ¶ 27 01:02:09,730 --> 01:02:10,997 SWEETHEART. 28 01:02:10,999 --> 01:02:12,998 GIVE ME SOME ICE, BABY. JUST SOME ICE. 29 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,600 -I'LL GET YOU SOME. -OKAY. 30 01:02:14,602 --> 01:02:17,670 YOU'RE THE ONLY MAN I KNOW THAT GOT SIX OF EVERYTHING. 31 01:02:17,672 --> 01:02:20,539 YOU GOT SIX SALT SHAKERS, SIX PEPPER SHAKERS. 32 01:02:20,541 --> 01:02:24,543 I THINK I HAD A GARAGE SALE, AND I'M NOT LYING TO YOU. 33 01:02:24,545 --> 01:02:28,014 I THINK I HAD FOUR OR FIVE TOASTERS STILL IN THE BOX. 34 01:02:28,016 --> 01:02:29,281 [ BOTH LAUGH ] 35 01:02:29,283 --> 01:02:31,617 I'VE BEEN MARRIED SIX TIMES. 36 01:02:31,619 --> 01:02:33,686 SIX. SEVEN IN LOUISIANA -- 37 01:02:33,688 --> 01:02:35,821 I THINK THEY DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AFTER THAT. 38 01:02:35,823 --> 01:02:39,224 WHAT ABOUT THE NEW WIFE? IS SHE GONNA BE OKAY WITH YOU PULLING THEM FILES UP? 39 01:02:39,226 --> 01:02:41,293 YEAH, BELIEVE ME, WE HAD A LONG TALK ABOUT IT. 40 01:02:41,295 --> 01:02:46,832 AND SHE UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH THIS CASE MEANT TO ME. 41 01:02:46,834 --> 01:02:49,301 YEAH, YOU GOT TWO DNA PROFILES IN HER UNDERWEAR, YOU SAID? 42 01:02:49,303 --> 01:02:50,703 -YES. -GANG RAPE? 43 01:02:50,705 --> 01:02:52,238 VERY POSSIBLE. 44 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,840 ¶ 45 01:02:54,842 --> 01:02:57,309 Rodie: EUGENIE BOISFONTAINE -- 46 01:02:57,311 --> 01:03:02,915 SHE WAS ABDUCTED IN 1997 FROM THE LSU LAKEFRONT. 47 01:03:02,917 --> 01:03:07,586 THREE MONTHS LATER, SHE WAS FOUND BRUTALLY MURDERED. 48 01:03:07,588 --> 01:03:10,523 HER BODY WAS DUMPED IN A RAGGEDY-ASS KILLING FIELD 49 01:03:10,525 --> 01:03:15,327 OVER THERE IN BAYOU MANCHAC LIKE A PIECE OF TRASH. 50 01:03:20,867 --> 01:03:22,468 I HOLD EUGENIE IN MY HEART 51 01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:26,872 BECAUSE OF THE LIFE I REALIZE SHE LIVED 52 01:03:26,874 --> 01:03:30,476 AND HOW LONELY SHE REALLY WAS. 53 01:03:30,478 --> 01:03:35,881 I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS TO BE LONELY IN THIS WORLD. 54 01:03:35,883 --> 01:03:40,820 EUGENIE CAME TO LSU, GOT TO BE IN A SORORITY WITH HER FRIENDS. 55 01:03:40,822 --> 01:03:46,092 AND AFTER SHE GRADUATED, SHE GOT MARRIED. 56 01:03:46,094 --> 01:03:50,429 MARRIAGE DIDN'T WORK OUT. 57 01:03:50,431 --> 01:03:51,630 DIVORCED. 58 01:03:51,632 --> 01:03:55,234 CAME BACK TO LSU, WHERE SHE HAD WENT TO SCHOOL. 59 01:03:55,236 --> 01:03:59,972 I THINK THE POOR GIRL, AFTER SHE GOT DIVORCED -- 60 01:03:59,974 --> 01:04:04,243 I THINK SHE FELT SHE LOST EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD. 61 01:04:04,245 --> 01:04:06,112 AND I'VE NEVER SAID THIS BEFORE, 62 01:04:06,114 --> 01:04:10,983 BUT I'LL SAY WHY EUGENIE'S CASE MEANT SO MUCH TO ME -- 63 01:04:10,985 --> 01:04:14,787 EUGENIE REMINDS ME OF ME. 64 01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:18,590 THROUGH MY DIFFERENT MARRIAGES AND DIVORCES, 65 01:04:18,592 --> 01:04:20,993 I'VE BEEN LONELY SEVERAL TIMES. 66 01:04:20,995 --> 01:04:25,598 I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO SEARCH FOR A FRIEND WHEN YOU'RE DOWN. 67 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,334 SHE HAD NO ONE TO BE THERE EVERY NIGHT FOR HER, 68 01:04:28,336 --> 01:04:30,803 TO HOLD HER HAND AND SAY, "IT'S OKAY." 69 01:04:30,805 --> 01:04:32,938 AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT SHE HAD FOUND 70 01:04:32,940 --> 01:04:36,742 THAT SHOWED HER A LITTLE BIT OF SYMPATHY, 71 01:04:36,744 --> 01:04:40,879 I THINK... 72 01:04:40,881 --> 01:04:43,215 WAS THE ONE WHO KILLED HER. 73 01:04:43,217 --> 01:04:44,683 WAS SHE DATING ANYBODY? 74 01:04:44,685 --> 01:04:46,952 WE DON'T KNOW. WE NEED TO LOOK BACK INTO THAT AGAIN, 75 01:04:46,954 --> 01:04:51,624 WHETHER IT WAS JUST SOMEONE SHE HAD MET ONE PARTICULAR NIGHT, 76 01:04:51,626 --> 01:04:53,091 WHETHER SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND. 77 01:04:53,093 --> 01:04:55,294 THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE A PERSON OF INTEREST TO US. 78 01:04:55,296 --> 01:04:57,363 SO, APPARENTLY SHE'S HAVING SEX WITH SOMEBODY, 79 01:04:57,365 --> 01:04:59,898 WHETHER IT BE CONSENSUAL OR NON-CONSENSUAL. 80 01:04:59,900 --> 01:05:01,700 THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 81 01:05:01,702 --> 01:05:04,102 TO KNOW WHO YOUR KILLER IS, YOU GOT TO KNOW THE VICTIM. 82 01:05:04,104 --> 01:05:06,105 YOU HAVE TO ALMOST PUT YOURSELF THERE. 83 01:05:06,107 --> 01:05:08,574 YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT HER LIFESTYLE WAS, 84 01:05:08,576 --> 01:05:10,309 WHAT SHE DID ON A DAILY BASIS, 85 01:05:10,311 --> 01:05:12,778 WHO SHE SEEN, WHO SHE HUNG AROUND WITH. 86 01:05:12,780 --> 01:05:14,647 18 YEARS -- SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO TALK NOW. 87 01:05:14,649 --> 01:05:16,248 SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOMETHING, 88 01:05:16,250 --> 01:05:18,517 BUT DIDN'T WANT AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME TO GET INVOLVED. 89 01:05:18,519 --> 01:05:19,785 WHAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO DO 90 01:05:19,787 --> 01:05:22,054 IS YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO GO BACK AND RETRACE EVERYTHING. 91 01:05:22,056 --> 01:05:25,457 START FROM THE BEGINNING. 92 01:05:25,459 --> 01:05:27,526 WHILE YOU DO THAT, I'M GONNA TALK TO THE SHERIFF 93 01:05:27,528 --> 01:05:29,728 ABOUT REINVESTIGATING THE DUMP SITE. 94 01:05:29,730 --> 01:05:32,598 WHO KNOWS? THEY MAY HAVE DROPPED SOMETHING 95 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,534 THAT THE DEPARTMENT BACK IN THE DAY DIDN'T FIND. 96 01:05:35,536 --> 01:05:36,735 THE THING ABOUT IT IS, 97 01:05:36,737 --> 01:05:39,004 IF YOU GOT TWO OR THREE PROFILES IN THERE, 98 01:05:39,006 --> 01:05:40,940 SOMEBODY HAD TO MESS UP SOMEWHERE. 99 01:05:40,942 --> 01:05:42,341 AND WE COULD USE A LEAD. 100 01:05:42,343 --> 01:05:43,943 TOMORROW, I'M GONNA GET WITH AUBREY. 101 01:05:43,945 --> 01:05:45,878 WE'LL GO OUT TO WHERE SHE LIVED. 102 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,547 YOU GOT AUBREY WITH YOU. HE'S YOUNG. HE'S FRESH. 103 01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:50,149 -HE'S A GO-GETTER. -HE'S A GO-GETTER. 104 01:05:50,151 --> 01:05:51,683 HE'S NOT GONNA BE SCARED TO GO. 105 01:05:51,685 --> 01:05:54,019 AND HE WANTS TO GO, GO, GO ALL THE TIME. 106 01:05:54,021 --> 01:05:56,154 AUBREY HAS AMBITION. 107 01:05:56,156 --> 01:05:57,956 [ GRUNTING ] 108 01:05:57,958 --> 01:06:00,359 ¶ 109 01:06:00,361 --> 01:06:02,160 St. Angelo: IT'S A BEAST OUT THERE. 110 01:06:02,162 --> 01:06:05,163 WE TRY TO PREPARE OURSELVES EVERY WAY AS A COP -- 111 01:06:05,165 --> 01:06:08,701 MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY. 112 01:06:08,703 --> 01:06:11,637 I ALWAYS QUESTION, WHEN'S MY CARD GONNA GET PULLED? 113 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,708 MY DAD, HE WAS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. 114 01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:20,445 I'D SEE HIS PATROL CAR. AND MOM WAS A COP, AS WELL. 115 01:06:20,447 --> 01:06:23,515 SHE USED TO WORK ON THE AMBULANCE SERVICE. 116 01:06:23,517 --> 01:06:26,385 I GUESS IT WAS IN MY BLOOD. 117 01:06:26,387 --> 01:06:28,854 TWO THINGS I CARRY WITH ME EVERY DAY -- 118 01:06:28,856 --> 01:06:34,059 THE FACT THAT DEATH IS CERTAIN, LIFE IS NOT. 119 01:06:34,061 --> 01:06:37,329 I LOST MY MOM AT A YOUNG AGE. I WAS 13 WHEN SHE PASSED AWAY. 120 01:06:37,331 --> 01:06:39,265 SHE WAS 32. 121 01:06:39,267 --> 01:06:43,002 TOLD MY MOM THAT I WAS GOING TO SEEK A MEDICAL PROFESSION 122 01:06:43,004 --> 01:06:46,272 AND FIND A CURE FOR CANCER THAT TOOK HER FROM US. 123 01:06:46,274 --> 01:06:48,006 AND IT WASN'T FEASIBLE, YOU KNOW, 124 01:06:48,008 --> 01:06:53,212 TRYING TO PAY FOR COLLEGE AND RAISE AN 8-YEAR-OLD BROTHER. 125 01:06:53,214 --> 01:06:56,348 SOMEBODY'S GOT TO PROTECT PEOPLE, RIGHT? 126 01:06:56,350 --> 01:06:58,951 THAT'S WHAT I MADE A COMMITMENT TO. 127 01:06:58,953 --> 01:07:04,957 CANCER TOOK MY MOM FROM ME AND MY BROTHER AND MY FAMILY. 128 01:07:04,959 --> 01:07:08,894 ANOTHER MONSTER TOOK EUGENIE FROM HER FAMILY. 129 01:07:08,896 --> 01:07:11,630 ¶ 130 01:07:11,632 --> 01:07:14,766 I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO EUGENIE. 131 01:07:24,043 --> 01:07:27,313 Rodie: 80% OF WOMEN THAT ARE MURDERED, 132 01:07:27,315 --> 01:07:30,316 THEIR LOVERS COMMITTED THE CRIME. 133 01:07:30,318 --> 01:07:33,185 WE COULD BE LOOKING AT A CRIME OF PASSION. 134 01:07:33,187 --> 01:07:35,587 THAT'S WHY IT'S THE UTMOST IMPORTANT 135 01:07:35,589 --> 01:07:37,923 THAT WE FIND OUT WHO SHE WAS DATING 136 01:07:37,925 --> 01:07:41,393 OR WHO SHE WAS SEEING AFTER HER DIVORCE. 137 01:07:41,395 --> 01:07:45,130 NOBODY'S HERE, AUBREY. 138 01:07:45,132 --> 01:07:46,799 DO YOU REMEMBER HER WALKING AROUND HERE? 139 01:07:46,801 --> 01:07:48,200 -Woman: I DO. -YOU EVER SEEN HER 140 01:07:48,202 --> 01:07:50,669 WALKING WITH ANYONE OTHER THAN HERSELF? 141 01:07:50,671 --> 01:07:52,671 NO, I NEVER SAW HER WITH ANYBODY BUT HERSELF. 142 01:07:52,673 --> 01:07:54,473 St. Angelo: DID EUGENIE HAVE A BOYFRIEND? 143 01:07:54,475 --> 01:07:59,345 I DID NOT KNOW OF ANYONE SPECIFIC THAT SHE HAD FOUND. 144 01:07:59,347 --> 01:08:00,813 St. Angelo: IT'S A POSSIBILITY 145 01:08:00,815 --> 01:08:02,881 THAT EUGENIE'S KILLER COULD HAVE BEEN A LOVER. 146 01:08:02,883 --> 01:08:04,950 RELATIONSHIPS GO BAD ALL THE TIME. 147 01:08:04,952 --> 01:08:08,954 AND IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT, HOMICIDES HAPPEN. 148 01:08:08,956 --> 01:08:11,357 Rodie: DO YOU THINK SHE CHANGED AFTER THE DIVORCE? 149 01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:14,693 Fox: YES, I DO. SHE WASN'T VERY KEPT UP. 150 01:08:14,695 --> 01:08:16,295 JUST NOT HERSELF. 151 01:08:16,297 --> 01:08:19,231 SO IT WAS A PRETTY BAD BREAKUP. 152 01:08:19,233 --> 01:08:22,167 YES. HER HUSBAND LEFT HER. 153 01:08:22,169 --> 01:08:24,503 WOMAN: Please leave a message at the tone. 154 01:08:24,505 --> 01:08:25,904 [ BEEP ] St. Angelo: YES, SIR. 155 01:08:25,906 --> 01:08:29,107 HOW YOU DOING? AUBREY ST. ANGELO, HOMICIDE DIVISION. 156 01:08:29,109 --> 01:08:31,643 WE ARE REOPENING YOUR EX-WIFE'S CASE, 157 01:08:31,645 --> 01:08:33,178 AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU. 158 01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:35,514 SO I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU'D GIVE ME A CALL. 159 01:08:35,516 --> 01:08:39,585 DID SHE EVER, AT ANY TIME, 160 01:08:39,587 --> 01:08:42,388 TELL YOU OF ANYONE THAT SHE WAS DATING? 161 01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:45,924 I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER IF SHE DID OR NOT. 162 01:08:47,927 --> 01:08:51,196 NO ONE EVER SEEN HER WITH A MAN. NO ONE. 163 01:08:51,198 --> 01:08:53,732 BUT IF THERE'S THREE DNA 164 01:08:53,734 --> 01:08:56,735 AND NONE OF YOUR CLOSE SORORITY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS 165 01:08:56,737 --> 01:08:58,737 EVER SEEN ANYONE COME TO YOUR HOUSE 166 01:08:58,739 --> 01:09:00,939 OR YOU NEVER TALKED ABOUT DATING ANYONE 167 01:09:00,941 --> 01:09:03,542 OR THEY NEVER HEARD YOU SAY ANYTHING, 168 01:09:03,544 --> 01:09:06,611 THAT'S WHY THIS CASE IS SO HARD TO SOLVE. 169 01:09:13,953 --> 01:09:17,356 St. Angelo: MORE THAN ONE MAN'S DNA COULD MEAN SHE WAS GANG-RAPED, 170 01:09:17,358 --> 01:09:18,557 OR IT COULD MEAN 171 01:09:18,559 --> 01:09:21,627 SHE HAD CONSENSUAL SEX WITH SOMEONE ONE DAY 172 01:09:21,629 --> 01:09:24,029 AND WAS RAPED AND KILLED THE NEXT. 173 01:09:24,031 --> 01:09:25,964 IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW QUIET YOU ARE. 174 01:09:25,966 --> 01:09:27,566 YOU'RE GOING TO MEET PEOPLE. 175 01:09:27,568 --> 01:09:29,301 YOU'RE DIVORCED FOR A COUPLE YEARS. 176 01:09:29,303 --> 01:09:30,368 YOU'RE LONELY. 177 01:09:30,370 --> 01:09:32,171 YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX. I MEAN, COME ON. 178 01:09:32,173 --> 01:09:33,905 Jeremy: EVERYBODY THAT WE TALKED TO 179 01:09:33,907 --> 01:09:36,041 THAT SAID THAT SHE WAS QUIET AND THIS AND THAT, 180 01:09:36,043 --> 01:09:37,909 WERE MOSTLY HER FRIENDS. 181 01:09:37,911 --> 01:09:39,578 AND JUST TO SAY, IF YOU WERE KILLED 182 01:09:39,580 --> 01:09:41,713 AND YOU WERE A LITTLE PROMISCUOUS OR WILD 183 01:09:41,715 --> 01:09:44,049 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 9 TIMES OUT OF 10, 184 01:09:44,051 --> 01:09:46,652 YOUR FRIENDS AREN'T GONNA RUN YOUR NAME THROUGH THE MUD. 185 01:09:46,654 --> 01:09:50,255 Rodie: AND WHO KNOWS? MAYBE SHE WAS SEEING PEOPLE WE DIDN'T KNOW. 186 01:09:50,257 --> 01:09:52,858 MAYBE SHE WANTED TO KEEP THAT TO HER PERSONAL SELF. 187 01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:54,660 LOTS OF CURVE BALLS IN THIS ONE. 188 01:09:54,662 --> 01:09:56,061 DEFINITELY. 189 01:09:56,063 --> 01:09:59,064 Rodie: THIS INVESTIGATION IS FIXING TO GET VERY DARK 190 01:09:59,066 --> 01:10:01,533 AND VERY, VERY DEEP. 191 01:10:05,071 --> 01:10:07,005 Rodie: TAKE YOU NOW TO BATON ROUGE, 192 01:10:07,007 --> 01:10:09,741 BY THE LAKEFRONT WHERE SHE WAS ABDUCTED. 193 01:10:09,743 --> 01:10:12,477 THERE'S A COUPLE STRANGE THINGS OUT THERE THAT HAPPENED 194 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,412 THAT I WANT YOUR OPINION ON. 195 01:10:14,414 --> 01:10:16,148 WHAT YOU MEAN BY STRANGE? 196 01:10:16,150 --> 01:10:19,684 I'LL SHOW YOU WHEN I GET THERE. 197 01:10:19,686 --> 01:10:23,222 [ BIRDS CRYING ] 198 01:10:23,224 --> 01:10:24,422 [ CAR DOORS OPEN ] 199 01:10:24,424 --> 01:10:25,958 SHOW YOU. 200 01:10:29,762 --> 01:10:33,231 THIS IS IT RIGHT HERE. 201 01:10:33,233 --> 01:10:35,834 AUBREY NEEDS TO KNOW EVERYTHING I KNOW 202 01:10:35,836 --> 01:10:38,370 AND EVERYTHING I DID ON THIS CASE 203 01:10:38,372 --> 01:10:42,307 BECAUSE HE HAS A NEW, FRESH, YOUNG SET OF EYES. 204 01:10:42,309 --> 01:10:46,178 'CAUSE IT MAY TAKE THAT TO SOLVE THIS CASE. 205 01:10:46,180 --> 01:10:49,448 I THINK SHE WAS ABDUCTED RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA. 206 01:10:49,450 --> 01:10:52,918 HER CREDIT CARDS AND DRIVER'S LICENSE AND STUFF 207 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,254 WERE FOUND RIGHT UP IN HERE. 208 01:10:55,256 --> 01:10:58,190 PROBABLY SOMEONE STOPPED TO TALK TO HER. 209 01:10:58,192 --> 01:11:01,793 AND GOOD-HEARTED AS SHE WAS, THOUGHT SHE FOUND A FRIEND. 210 01:11:01,795 --> 01:11:04,196 ENDED UP KNOCKING HER BEHIND THE HEAD 211 01:11:04,198 --> 01:11:06,198 AND THROWING HER IN THAT RAGGEDY-ASS CANAL 212 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,733 THAT I FOUND HER IN. 213 01:11:08,735 --> 01:11:13,071 WALK THIS WAY. I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOMETHING ELSE. 214 01:11:13,073 --> 01:11:16,141 SEE THIS PARTICULAR POLE HERE? 215 01:11:16,143 --> 01:11:18,810 WE PUT POSTERS UP, FLIERS. 216 01:11:18,812 --> 01:11:22,281 WHEN WE PUT THEM UP, COME BACK THE NEXT DAY OR THE DAY AFTER, 217 01:11:22,283 --> 01:11:24,082 THEY WERE GONE. 218 01:11:24,084 --> 01:11:29,688 NOT ONE, NOT TWO, NOT THREE, BUT FIVE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS. 219 01:11:29,690 --> 01:11:33,024 LIKE GUILT, LIKE CAN'T SEE HER FACE? 220 01:11:33,026 --> 01:11:34,159 GOOD POSSIBILITY. 221 01:11:34,161 --> 01:11:37,763 -AND THAT'S ODD, DUDE. -VERY. 222 01:11:37,765 --> 01:11:41,233 TO FIND HER FLIER TAKEN OFF THAT POLE 223 01:11:41,235 --> 01:11:44,502 NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT FOUR OR FIVE TIMES, 224 01:11:44,504 --> 01:11:49,641 THAT TELLS ME THAT THAT PROBABLY WAS THE KILLER PULLING THAT OFF. 225 01:11:49,643 --> 01:11:50,909 HE CAME BACK. 226 01:11:50,911 --> 01:11:54,980 HE WAS TRYING TO TEST ME AND SAY, "YOU CAN'T CATCH ME." 227 01:11:54,982 --> 01:11:57,115 KILLERS WILL GO ON BACK TO THE CRIME SCENE 228 01:11:57,117 --> 01:12:00,519 AND WATCH BEHIND TREES OR WHATEVER THEY CAN DO 229 01:12:00,521 --> 01:12:03,121 TO SEE WHAT WE DOING. 230 01:12:03,123 --> 01:12:06,325 AND PROBABLY GO BACK AND LAUGH AND SAY, "HEY, I GOT THEM. 231 01:12:06,327 --> 01:12:08,994 I'LL KILL ANOTHER ONE. THEY AIN'T GOT ME YET." 232 01:12:08,996 --> 01:12:10,395 WELL, PUT ANOTHER ONE BACK UP. 233 01:12:10,397 --> 01:12:12,998 LET'S SEE IF WE CAN SMOKE HIM OUT IF HE'S STILL OUT THERE. 234 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,001 LET'S DO IT. 235 01:12:16,003 --> 01:12:18,803 St. Angelo: YOU KNOW, I THINK EUGENIE'S KILLER'S STILL OUT THERE. 236 01:12:18,805 --> 01:12:21,273 MAYBE HE STILL LIVES IN THE SAME AREA. 237 01:12:21,275 --> 01:12:23,008 COME ON. COME BACK AND GET IT. 238 01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:25,076 I'LL BE WAITING FOR YOU. 239 01:12:25,078 --> 01:12:26,878 Rodie: I'LL PROMISE YOU ONE THING -- 240 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:31,082 WHOEVER YOU ARE, YOU'RE NOT SMARTER THAN ME. 241 01:12:31,084 --> 01:12:35,020 SOONER OR LATER, I'M GONNA GET YOUR ASS. 242 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:58,243 ¶ OH, MY BROTHER 243 01:12:58,245 --> 01:13:02,514 ¶ YOU'VE FALLEN FROM GRACE 244 01:13:05,384 --> 01:13:07,653 Leda: COME ON! [ CLICKS TONGUE ] 245 01:13:07,655 --> 01:13:09,587 Rodie: YEAH, MY BABY. 246 01:13:09,589 --> 01:13:11,856 THAT THERE'S THE BABY. [ SMOOCHES ] 247 01:13:11,858 --> 01:13:13,659 THAT'S DADDY'S OLD BUDDY. 248 01:13:13,661 --> 01:13:15,927 I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF HIM WHEN WE MOVE. 249 01:13:15,929 --> 01:13:18,196 -HAVE YOU FOUND A HOUSE YET? -I HAVE FOUND A HOUSE. 250 01:13:18,198 --> 01:13:19,931 -YOU FINALLY FOUND ONE... -I FOUND IT. 251 01:13:19,933 --> 01:13:21,733 -AFTER ALL THE HOUSES. -IT'S BEAUTIFUL. 252 01:13:21,735 --> 01:13:23,935 TELL ME ABOUT IT. 253 01:13:23,937 --> 01:13:27,139 IT'S A LOT OF SPACE FOR US. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN SPACE. 254 01:13:27,141 --> 01:13:29,941 I'M GONNA HAVE AN OFFICE TO DO ALL MY POLICE WORK? 255 01:13:29,943 --> 01:13:31,410 -NO POLICE WORK. -[ CHUCKLES ] 256 01:13:31,412 --> 01:13:32,477 NO POLICE WORK. 257 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,212 -NO POLICE WORK? -NO POLICE WORK. 258 01:13:34,214 --> 01:13:37,749 YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RETIRED, BUT... 259 01:13:37,751 --> 01:13:40,218 YOU'RE NOT. 260 01:13:40,220 --> 01:13:41,686 YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE STILL TIED UP. 261 01:13:41,688 --> 01:13:43,888 YOU'RE TIED UP IN EVERYTHING. 262 01:13:43,890 --> 01:13:45,957 I KNOW, LEDA, BUT YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND -- 263 01:13:45,959 --> 01:13:50,762 I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD. 264 01:13:50,764 --> 01:13:53,498 Rodie: I'VE BEEN MARRIED SIX TIMES. 265 01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:55,567 I LIVE TO WORK. 266 01:13:55,569 --> 01:13:59,171 AND MY WIVES, THEY HAD TO SUFFER. 267 01:13:59,173 --> 01:14:03,441 AND THAT'S WHY I'M ON NUMBER 6, I GUESS. 268 01:14:03,443 --> 01:14:05,510 IT'S JUST TIME. IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO RELAX. 269 01:14:05,512 --> 01:14:07,712 IT'S TIME FOR RETIRING. 270 01:14:07,714 --> 01:14:11,316 IT'S TIME FOR, YOU KNOW, CALMNESS IN YOUR LIFE. 271 01:14:11,318 --> 01:14:14,386 AFTER THIS CASE, MY BABY. 272 01:14:14,388 --> 01:14:17,255 I'M NOT GONNA LOSE THIS WIFE OVER LAW ENFORCEMENT. 273 01:14:17,257 --> 01:14:18,990 THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN TO ME. 274 01:14:18,992 --> 01:14:22,527 BUT I'M NOT GONNA BE HAPPY 275 01:14:22,529 --> 01:14:25,664 UNTIL I KNOW WHO KILLED EUGENIE. 276 01:14:25,666 --> 01:14:29,000 DON'T OVERDO IT, RODIE. 277 01:14:29,002 --> 01:14:31,336 -LOVE YOU. -LOVE YOU, TOO, BABY. 278 01:14:31,338 --> 01:14:32,804 HEY, WATCH THAT. 279 01:14:32,806 --> 01:14:36,875 ¶ 280 01:14:36,877 --> 01:14:38,810 WOMAN: Please leave a message at the tone. 281 01:14:38,812 --> 01:14:39,878 [ BEEP ] 282 01:14:54,761 --> 01:14:56,495 St. Angelo: BEFORE I CAME TO HOMICIDE, 283 01:14:56,497 --> 01:15:00,565 ZACK SIMMERS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST GUYS I GOT TO TRAIN. 284 01:15:00,567 --> 01:15:03,435 TURN IN RIGHT HERE. 285 01:15:03,437 --> 01:15:05,170 WE CHASED BAD GUYS TOGETHER. 286 01:15:05,172 --> 01:15:06,905 I'D TRUST ZACK WITH MY LIFE. 287 01:15:06,907 --> 01:15:08,640 LOT OF FREAKS HANG OUT HERE AT NIGHT. 288 01:15:08,642 --> 01:15:09,707 TURN IN. 289 01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:10,976 SO, WHEN RODIE'S NOT AROUND, 290 01:15:10,978 --> 01:15:13,111 THIS CASE IS GONNA BE HANDLED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. 291 01:15:13,113 --> 01:15:16,981 IT'S ASSIGNED TO ME, AND I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. 292 01:15:16,983 --> 01:15:21,052 IN '97, RODIE AND THEM WERE OUT HERE CANVASSING THE AREA. 293 01:15:21,054 --> 01:15:22,587 THEY PUT SOME FLIERS UP. 294 01:15:22,589 --> 01:15:24,122 ONE POLE RIGHT THERE IN PARTICULAR, 295 01:15:24,124 --> 01:15:26,992 THE FLIER KEPT GETTING RIPPED DOWN. 296 01:15:26,994 --> 01:15:28,794 Rodie: THEY WERE GONE. 297 01:15:28,796 --> 01:15:30,862 NOT ONE, NOT TWO, NOT THREE, 298 01:15:30,864 --> 01:15:35,000 BUT FIVE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS. 299 01:15:35,002 --> 01:15:37,002 WE PUT UP SOME FLIERS THIS MORNING. 300 01:15:37,004 --> 01:15:39,471 TONIGHT, I WANT TO SEE IF THEY COME DOWN AGAIN. 301 01:15:39,473 --> 01:15:40,605 Simmers: RIGHT. 302 01:15:40,607 --> 01:15:42,407 I WANT TO SET UP SURVEILLANCE ON THAT POLE. 303 01:15:42,409 --> 01:15:43,475 IT'S NIGHT VISION. 304 01:15:43,477 --> 01:15:45,877 -COOL? -LET'S DO IT. 305 01:15:45,879 --> 01:15:48,947 THE KILLER COULD STILL BE OUT THERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, MAN. 306 01:15:48,949 --> 01:15:51,349 I GOT TO SEE IF HISTORY'S REPEATING ITSELF. 307 01:15:51,351 --> 01:15:54,286 SOME KILLERS LIKE TO LEAVE CLUES FOR DETECTIVES 308 01:15:54,288 --> 01:15:57,021 LIKE IT'S A BIG GAME. 309 01:15:57,023 --> 01:15:58,890 I'M NOT PLAYING. 310 01:15:58,892 --> 01:16:02,827 ¶ 311 01:16:02,829 --> 01:16:05,697 HERE. 312 01:16:05,699 --> 01:16:07,165 TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST POLE? 313 01:16:07,167 --> 01:16:10,301 JUST THIS SIDE OF IT IS WHERE HER DRIVER'S LICENSE, 314 01:16:10,303 --> 01:16:12,971 CREDIT CARDS, STUFF LIKE THAT IS DROPPED. 315 01:16:12,973 --> 01:16:15,106 AND THAT'S WHERE SOMEBODY SMASHED HER IN THE HEAD 316 01:16:15,108 --> 01:16:17,108 AND TOOK HER, I THINK. 317 01:16:21,714 --> 01:16:24,850 ¶ 318 01:16:33,059 --> 01:16:34,592 YOU DON'T WANT A PIECE OF PIZZA? 319 01:16:34,594 --> 01:16:36,995 I JUST WANT YOUR PEPPERONI. GIVE ME YOUR PEPPERONI. 320 01:16:36,997 --> 01:16:38,930 -WELL, JUST TOUCH ALL OF THEM. -[ LAUGHS ] 321 01:16:38,932 --> 01:16:40,599 TOUCH THEM ALL. 322 01:16:43,202 --> 01:16:45,203 [ Muffled ] IT'S 2:00 IN THE MORNING. 323 01:16:45,205 --> 01:16:47,606 WE STILL GOT A LITTLE TRAFFIC OUT HERE. 324 01:16:47,608 --> 01:16:50,208 YOU KNOW, SHE WAS ABDUCTED ON A FRIDAY, I THINK. 325 01:16:50,210 --> 01:16:51,743 NIGHTTIME? DAYTIME? 326 01:16:51,745 --> 01:16:55,079 WELL, EVIL SEEKS DARKNESS, HOMEY. 327 01:16:55,081 --> 01:16:57,415 NOTHING BUT MONEY AROUND HERE. 328 01:16:57,417 --> 01:16:58,883 I MEAN, LOOK AT THE HOUSES. 329 01:16:58,885 --> 01:17:01,019 A BEAUTIFUL AREA TO LIVE IN. 330 01:17:01,021 --> 01:17:05,356 BUT A BUNCH OF SKEEZES AND WEIRDOS OUT THERE AT NIGHT. 331 01:17:05,358 --> 01:17:07,425 YEAH. 332 01:17:07,427 --> 01:17:09,895 I MEAN, WHAT BETTER PLACE TO COME ABDUCT SOMEBODY? 333 01:17:09,897 --> 01:17:13,698 OH, THIS IS LIKE SHOOTING FISH IN BARREL. 334 01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:18,503 BUT, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD POSSESS HER TO WALK AROUND AT NIGHT? 335 01:17:18,505 --> 01:17:20,238 OR ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION. 336 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,574 WAS SHE BY HERSELF? 337 01:17:22,576 --> 01:17:24,642 I DO ASK MYSELF THAT. 338 01:17:24,644 --> 01:17:28,179 AND I TOLD YOU -- THIS IS A MIND VIRUS. 339 01:17:28,181 --> 01:17:31,583 THIS CASE IS REALLY -- IT'S STARTING TO GET TO ME. 340 01:17:31,585 --> 01:17:34,986 FLIER GETTING TORN DOWN, IT TOTALLY RAISED MY EYEBROW. 341 01:17:34,988 --> 01:17:36,254 WHAT DOES IT MEAN? 342 01:17:36,256 --> 01:17:38,590 IF THE SAME PERSON THAT TOOK DOWN THOSE FLIERS 343 01:17:38,592 --> 01:17:40,592 IS THE SAME PERSON THAT KILLED HER, 344 01:17:40,594 --> 01:17:43,261 I MEAN, MAYBE HE STILL LIVES IN THE SAME AREA. 345 01:17:43,263 --> 01:17:45,663 IT'S GONNA BE GETTING LIGHT OUT IN A LITTLE BIT, DUDE. 346 01:17:45,665 --> 01:17:46,665 LET'S ROLL OUT. 347 01:17:46,667 --> 01:17:48,266 WE JUST NEED A LITTLE HINT. 348 01:17:48,268 --> 01:17:50,936 WE NEED SOME CLUE TO HELP US KNOW MORE ABOUT THE KILLER. 349 01:17:50,938 --> 01:17:52,737 WE GOT TO WAKE UP IN THREE HOURS. 350 01:17:52,739 --> 01:17:54,072 [ ENGINE STARTS ] 351 01:17:54,074 --> 01:17:56,140 YOU AIN'T GOT TO TELL ME TWICE. 352 01:18:06,151 --> 01:18:09,955 [ CELLPHONE RINGS ] 353 01:18:09,957 --> 01:18:11,690 -Aubrey? -YES, SIR. 354 01:18:35,514 --> 01:18:37,182 OH, MY GOSH. 355 01:18:39,518 --> 01:18:41,519 OKAY, COOL. 356 01:18:41,521 --> 01:18:43,521 WE'RE ON OUR WAY BACK. 357 01:18:43,523 --> 01:18:46,658 Rodie: WHO KNOWS? MAYBE SHE'LL GIVE US A LEAD. 358 01:18:46,660 --> 01:18:51,129 YOU KNOW, EACH PERSON THAT EUGENIE TOUCHED IN HER LIFE 359 01:18:51,131 --> 01:18:54,265 HAS VITAL INFORMATION TO HER CASE. 360 01:18:54,267 --> 01:18:57,068 MAYBE SOMEONE'LL REMEMBER SOMETHING 361 01:18:57,070 --> 01:18:58,603 THAT THEY DIDN'T REMEMBER BACK THEN 362 01:18:58,605 --> 01:18:59,937 OR SEEN SOMETHING THIS TIME 363 01:18:59,939 --> 01:19:01,939 THAT THEY COULD TELL US THAT THEY FORGOT. 364 01:19:01,941 --> 01:19:04,542 THAT MAY BE THE THING THAT SOLVES THIS CASE. 365 01:19:06,745 --> 01:19:08,746 St. Angelo: I UNDERSTAND YOU SAW THE FLIER 366 01:19:08,748 --> 01:19:11,816 AND COULD PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT EUGENIE. 367 01:19:11,818 --> 01:19:14,152 WOMAN: Shortly before she disappeared, 368 01:19:14,154 --> 01:19:18,556 she started acting a little odd. 369 01:19:18,558 --> 01:19:22,027 She'd walk past the house very late in the evening. 370 01:19:22,029 --> 01:19:24,629 And one evening, she was getting out of her car. 371 01:19:24,631 --> 01:19:26,965 She had several bags of groceries. 372 01:19:26,967 --> 01:19:29,634 And so I went across the street to help her carry them. 373 01:19:29,636 --> 01:19:31,836 So I said, "Why are you parking over here?" 374 01:19:31,838 --> 01:19:33,972 And she says, "I'm scared." 375 01:19:37,176 --> 01:19:39,110 She said somebody was following her. 376 01:19:39,112 --> 01:19:41,312 She said, "I don't want to park in front of the house. 377 01:19:41,314 --> 01:19:43,047 I don't want him to know where I live." 378 01:19:43,049 --> 01:19:44,649 -WOW. -I said, "Who's following you?" 379 01:19:44,651 --> 01:19:47,519 And she didn't know. She just said some guy. 380 01:19:47,521 --> 01:19:50,188 She was just skittish. She was scared. She looked like a puppy 381 01:19:50,190 --> 01:19:52,390 that had been hit by a newspaper too many times. 382 01:19:52,392 --> 01:19:54,325 WHENEVER YOU WERE WALKING AROUND THE LAKES, 383 01:19:54,327 --> 01:19:57,795 DID YOU EVER SEE ANYTHING ODD, OUT OF THE ORDINARY, 384 01:19:57,797 --> 01:20:00,065 ANYTHING THAT DISTURBED YOU? 385 01:20:00,067 --> 01:20:01,533 There were some mornings 386 01:20:01,535 --> 01:20:05,403 I would see the same truck over and over again. 387 01:20:05,405 --> 01:20:08,206 One morning, I saw him kind of following me. 388 01:20:08,208 --> 01:20:10,475 He was driving very slowly around the lake. 389 01:20:10,477 --> 01:20:13,811 But he was staying behind me and to the side. 390 01:20:13,813 --> 01:20:16,147 And it really kind of bothered me 391 01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:18,549 that he was matching my speed and staying right there. 392 01:20:18,551 --> 01:20:20,818 So I just kind of cut through somebody's yard. 393 01:20:20,820 --> 01:20:24,222 I'm pretty sure it was a silver- or gray-colored Nissan truck. 394 01:20:24,224 --> 01:20:27,692 SILVER OR GRAY NISSAN TRUCK. 395 01:20:27,694 --> 01:20:29,560 That was a little creepy. 396 01:20:29,562 --> 01:20:32,030 Rodie: THIS COULD BE OUR BEST LEAD. 397 01:20:32,032 --> 01:20:36,501 THERE WERE A LOT OF PERVERTS ON THAT LAKE IN 1997. 398 01:20:36,503 --> 01:20:39,837 WE BETTER START LOOKING FOR SOME PERVERTED SON OF A BITCHES. 399 01:21:04,463 --> 01:21:08,266 Rodie: POOR EUGENIE, THROWN IN A SWAMP IN THE BAYOU. 400 01:21:08,268 --> 01:21:13,337 IT'S SUCH A PERFECT AREA FOR THE BAD GUYS TO DUMP THEIR VICTIMS. 401 01:21:13,339 --> 01:21:15,940 AND THE BUGS, ALLIGATORS -- 402 01:21:15,942 --> 01:21:19,544 IT'S PERFECT TO EAT UP ALL YOUR EVIDENCE ON YOUR CASE. 403 01:21:19,546 --> 01:21:23,014 SO IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER TO WORK. 404 01:21:23,016 --> 01:21:24,883 YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE WITH EUGENIE, 405 01:21:24,885 --> 01:21:28,019 WE HAD NO MURDER WEAPON TO PUT ANYONE AT THE SCENE 406 01:21:28,021 --> 01:21:30,421 OR AT HER RESIDENCE WHERE SHE CAME UP MISSING 407 01:21:30,423 --> 01:21:32,023 OR ON THE LAKEFRONT. 408 01:21:32,025 --> 01:21:34,025 THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT. 409 01:21:37,362 --> 01:21:39,030 [ KNOCK ON DOOR ] Hebert: YES, SIR. 410 01:21:39,032 --> 01:21:42,233 Stassi: MAJOR, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BOISFONTAINE CASE? 411 01:21:42,235 --> 01:21:43,768 IT'S NOT A PERFECT MURDER. 412 01:21:43,770 --> 01:21:46,037 YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAD TO MESS UP SOMEWHERE. 413 01:21:46,039 --> 01:21:48,239 I MEAN, IF WE CAN FIND SOME PHYSICAL EVIDENCE 414 01:21:48,241 --> 01:21:50,175 AT THAT CRIME SCENE WHERE SHE WAS DUMPED, 415 01:21:50,177 --> 01:21:52,443 IT MAY LEAD US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 416 01:21:52,445 --> 01:21:54,579 THERE'S A COMPANY CALLED AQUA SURVEY. 417 01:21:54,581 --> 01:21:58,650 WHAT THEY DO IS THEY HAVE A LOT OF HIGH-TECH SONAR EQUIPMENT. 418 01:21:58,652 --> 01:22:03,388 I'D LIKE FOR TO GET THEM IN AND SCAN THAT AREA. 419 01:22:03,390 --> 01:22:06,257 HE MAY HAVE DISCARDED HER AND THE WEAPON THERE. 420 01:22:06,259 --> 01:22:08,726 IT'S WORTH A SHOT GOING OUT THERE AND SCANNING THIS AREA. 421 01:22:08,728 --> 01:22:10,461 WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'LL FIND? 422 01:22:10,463 --> 01:22:12,130 -YOU GOT A MINUTE, DUDE? -YEAH. 423 01:22:12,132 --> 01:22:13,531 I'VE BEEN DOING SOME SEARCHING 424 01:22:13,533 --> 01:22:16,467 ON JUST DIFFERENT SEX OFFENDERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT 425 01:22:16,469 --> 01:22:18,336 IN THE STANFORD AREA BACK IN '97. 426 01:22:18,338 --> 01:22:20,338 CAME UP WITH ONE DUDE -- 427 01:22:20,340 --> 01:22:25,009 HE WAS ACTUALLY ARRESTED IN THE PARK AREA OF STANFORD. 428 01:22:25,011 --> 01:22:26,878 WHAT? 429 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,082 -WHAT HE GOT ARRESTED FOR? -OBSCENITY. 430 01:22:31,084 --> 01:22:32,550 WOMAN: There were some mornings 431 01:22:32,552 --> 01:22:36,287 I would see the same truck over and over again. 432 01:22:36,289 --> 01:22:39,090 One morning, I saw him kind of following me. 433 01:22:39,092 --> 01:22:41,025 He was driving very slowly around the lake. 434 01:22:41,027 --> 01:22:42,760 That was a little creepy. 435 01:22:42,762 --> 01:22:45,830 SO, HE MUST HAVE BEEN SHOWING HIMSELF TO SOMEBODY 436 01:22:45,832 --> 01:22:46,965 OR SOMETHING. 437 01:22:46,967 --> 01:22:48,967 I LOOKED HIM UP, RAN HIS CRIMINAL HISTORY. 438 01:22:48,969 --> 01:22:51,369 HE HAS A GOOD, LITTLE RAP SHEET -- 439 01:22:51,371 --> 01:22:53,504 BATTERY WITH DANGEROUS WEAPON, STUFF LIKE THAT. 440 01:22:53,506 --> 01:22:56,307 BUT THE OBSCENITY WAS WHAT CAUGHT MY EYE. 441 01:22:56,309 --> 01:22:58,443 WHEN WAS HE ARRESTED? 442 01:22:58,445 --> 01:23:00,645 JUNE 2nd OF '97, 443 01:23:00,647 --> 01:23:02,647 11 DAYS BEFORE SHE DISAPPEARED. 444 01:23:02,649 --> 01:23:05,449 WORK HISTORY SHOWS HE USED TO WORK AT ST. GABRIEL 445 01:23:05,451 --> 01:23:08,052 IN THE BAYOU MANCHAC AREA, WHICH IS WHERE WE FOUND HER. 446 01:23:08,054 --> 01:23:10,655 LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY WE NEED TO GET IN HERE AND TALK TO. 447 01:23:10,657 --> 01:23:12,790 WE'RE GONNA GO FIND HIM. 448 01:23:12,792 --> 01:23:15,726 WE GOT TO FIND HIM AND SIT HIM DOWN AND SEE WHAT HE KNOWS. 449 01:23:15,728 --> 01:23:17,328 HE COULD BE OUR GUY. 450 01:23:20,733 --> 01:23:22,400 St. Angelo: SO, WE GOT A LEAD ON A GUY. 451 01:23:22,402 --> 01:23:27,939 HE FITS A LOT OF THE PROFILE TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH EUGENIE. 452 01:23:27,941 --> 01:23:31,475 UP HERE ON THE RIGHT. 453 01:23:31,477 --> 01:23:33,011 [ DOG BARKS ] 454 01:23:33,013 --> 01:23:34,679 [ KNOCK ON DOOR ] 455 01:23:34,681 --> 01:23:36,814 [ DOG BARKING ] 456 01:23:36,816 --> 01:23:38,816 DETECTIVE ST. ANGELO WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 457 01:23:38,818 --> 01:23:40,351 -HOW YOU DOING? -LESLIE BRADFORD. 458 01:23:40,353 --> 01:23:42,287 WE GOT A SUBPOENA TO SPEAK WITH YOU. 459 01:23:42,289 --> 01:23:44,221 WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO COME BACK TO OUR OFFICE 460 01:23:44,223 --> 01:23:46,024 IN IBERVILLE PARISH. 461 01:23:48,761 --> 01:23:49,961 HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE 462 01:23:49,963 --> 01:23:52,697 FOR YOU TO GET READY AND FOLLOW US OVER THERE? 463 01:23:52,699 --> 01:23:56,500 -ALL RIGHT. -WE'LL BE WAITING. 464 01:23:56,502 --> 01:23:57,835 FOLLOW THE BLACK TAHOE. 465 01:23:57,837 --> 01:24:01,105 -WE GOT YOU. -OKAY. 466 01:24:01,107 --> 01:24:02,373 WHAT DO YOU THINK? 467 01:24:02,375 --> 01:24:05,176 HE LIVED BLOCKS AWAY FROM EUGENIE. 468 01:24:05,178 --> 01:24:07,845 HE WAS ARRESTED FOR MASTURBATING IN A PARK 469 01:24:07,847 --> 01:24:10,915 IN THE SAME AREA THAT SHE CAME UP MISSING. 470 01:24:10,917 --> 01:24:13,384 HE EVEN WORKED NEAR BAYOU MANCHAC. 471 01:24:13,386 --> 01:24:15,720 HE COULD POSSIBLY BE OUR GUY. 472 01:24:25,130 --> 01:24:27,332 HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ARRESTED BEFORE? 473 01:24:27,334 --> 01:24:29,066 Man: UH, YEAH. 474 01:24:29,068 --> 01:24:32,336 FOR WHAT? 475 01:24:32,338 --> 01:24:33,938 GOLLY, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER, MAN. 476 01:24:33,940 --> 01:24:35,606 IT'S BEEN SO LONG AGO. 477 01:24:35,608 --> 01:24:39,077 IN 1971, YOU WAS ARRESTED FOR AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. 478 01:24:39,079 --> 01:24:43,347 1990, AGGRAVATED BATTERY WITH A DANGEROUS WEAPON AGAIN. 479 01:24:43,349 --> 01:24:45,616 YOU TRIED TO HIT SOMEBODY WITH A BASEBALL BAT? 480 01:24:45,618 --> 01:24:46,617 NOT ME. 481 01:24:46,619 --> 01:24:48,353 YOU DON'T HIT PEOPLE WITH OBJECTS? 482 01:24:48,355 --> 01:24:49,420 UNH-UNH. 483 01:24:49,422 --> 01:24:51,222 -BRASS KNUCKLES OR SOMETHING? -NO. 484 01:24:51,224 --> 01:24:55,293 ALL RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT JUNE OF 1997? 485 01:24:57,629 --> 01:24:59,296 OBSCENITY. 486 01:24:59,298 --> 01:25:03,167 YOU PLED TO DISTURBING THE PEACE. 487 01:25:03,169 --> 01:25:05,369 ALL RIGHT, I'M-A HELP YOU REMEMBER A LITTLE BIT. 488 01:25:05,371 --> 01:25:08,039 IT SAYS THAT ON 6/2/97, 489 01:25:08,041 --> 01:25:11,308 AT 900 STANFORD ON A BENCH... 490 01:25:13,445 --> 01:25:15,179 I HAD JUST STOPPED THERE, YOU KNOW? 491 01:25:15,181 --> 01:25:18,449 AND POLICE PULLED UP, YOU KNOW? 492 01:25:18,451 --> 01:25:21,519 CAME OVER TO ME. 493 01:25:21,521 --> 01:25:24,522 EVERYTHING PROGRESSED FROM THERE. 494 01:25:24,524 --> 01:25:26,991 HOW OFTEN DID YOU GO OUT THERE BY THOSE LSU LAKES? 495 01:25:26,993 --> 01:25:28,526 -YOU FISH OUT THERE? -OH, YEAH. 496 01:25:28,528 --> 01:25:31,862 LIKE I SAID, THAT'S RIGHT WHERE I WAS RAISED UP THERE, YOU KNOW? 497 01:25:31,864 --> 01:25:33,798 BORN AND RAISED IN THAT AREA. 498 01:25:36,602 --> 01:25:40,338 YOU EVER SEEN THAT LADY? 499 01:25:40,340 --> 01:25:42,139 NO, I DON'T KNOW HER. 500 01:25:42,141 --> 01:25:46,744 THIS LADY USED TO ALWAYS WALK AROUND THE LSU LAKES. 501 01:25:46,746 --> 01:25:51,015 NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN HER. 502 01:25:51,017 --> 01:25:53,818 YOU FAMILIAR WITH BAYOU MANCHAC? 503 01:25:53,820 --> 01:25:56,754 YEAH, I'VE GONE TO MANCHAC. 504 01:25:56,756 --> 01:25:59,156 I USED TO GO STRAIGHT UP PERKINS ROAD AND -- 505 01:25:59,158 --> 01:26:02,160 WHAT'S THAT, BLUFF ROAD? -- TO GET TO ALLIGATOR BAYOU. 506 01:26:04,496 --> 01:26:07,298 TELL ME WHAT KIND OF VEHICLES YOU HAD IN 1997. 507 01:26:10,636 --> 01:26:12,503 PICKUP TRUCK, OKAY. 508 01:26:12,505 --> 01:26:15,907 WOMAN: I'm pretty sure it was a silver- or gray-colored Nissan truck. 509 01:26:15,909 --> 01:26:18,910 St. Angelo: SILVER OR GRAY NISSAN TRUCK. 510 01:26:18,912 --> 01:26:23,915 SOMEBODY SAID THEY SAW YOU IN A SILVER PICKUP TRUCK IN 1997. 511 01:26:23,917 --> 01:26:26,117 NO, NEVER HAD A WHITE ONE. 512 01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,521 THIS IS BAYOU MANCHAC. 513 01:26:30,523 --> 01:26:31,656 I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING 514 01:26:31,658 --> 01:26:34,058 ALL THAT TRASH AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN THERE 515 01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:36,927 WHEN I WAS FISHING AND STUFF AROUND THERE. 516 01:26:36,929 --> 01:26:38,929 YOU DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT BODY IN THERE? 517 01:26:38,931 --> 01:26:39,997 A BODY? 518 01:26:39,999 --> 01:26:41,732 YEAH, THAT BODY, THAT CORPSE RIGHT THERE. 519 01:26:41,734 --> 01:26:42,933 MNH-MNH. 520 01:26:42,935 --> 01:26:44,668 Rodie: I DON'T LIKE THE WAY HE LOOKED AT THAT. 521 01:26:44,670 --> 01:26:46,670 MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY, "MAN, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS." 522 01:26:46,672 --> 01:26:48,005 HE DIDN'T MAKE ANY REACTION AT ALL. 523 01:26:48,007 --> 01:26:49,674 HE JUST LOOKED AT IT KIND OF COLD-HEARTEDLY. 524 01:26:49,676 --> 01:26:52,143 -IS THAT HER LEGS? -YEAH. 525 01:26:52,145 --> 01:26:54,011 DOES IT BOTHER YOU TO LOOK AT THIS? 526 01:26:54,013 --> 01:26:55,546 NO, NOT REALLY. 527 01:26:55,548 --> 01:26:57,882 REALLY? WHY? 528 01:26:57,884 --> 01:27:00,551 BOTHERS ME TO LOOK AT IT, AND I'VE SEEN A BUNCH OF THEM. 529 01:27:00,553 --> 01:27:03,020 -[ SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY ] -I SEE DEAD BODIES ALL THE TIME, 530 01:27:03,022 --> 01:27:05,890 AND IT BOTHERS ME TO LOOK AT SOMEBODY DEAD THAT GOT KILLED. 531 01:27:05,892 --> 01:27:08,759 BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU DIFFERENT FROM ME, YOU KNOW? 532 01:27:08,761 --> 01:27:12,697 BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS PARTICULAR -- 533 01:27:12,699 --> 01:27:14,098 HOLD ON. STOP. 534 01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:16,501 HOW AM I DIFFERENT -- 'CAUSE I HAVE COMPASSION FOR A HUMAN? 535 01:27:16,503 --> 01:27:17,902 NO, NO, DON'T GET ME WRONG. 536 01:27:17,904 --> 01:27:20,304 I DON'T SEE ANY COMPASSION IN YOUR EYES LOOKING AT THIS. 537 01:27:20,306 --> 01:27:24,842 I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS PARTICULAR "WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT" 538 01:27:24,844 --> 01:27:27,245 BEFORE IN MY LIFE. 539 01:27:27,247 --> 01:27:28,979 I DON'T SEE ANY COMPASSION IN YOU. 540 01:27:28,981 --> 01:27:31,782 LIKE, YOU DON'T GIVE A [BLEEP] THAT YOU LOOKING AT A DEAD BODY. 541 01:27:31,784 --> 01:27:34,385 THAT IS JUST A PICTURE. 542 01:27:34,387 --> 01:27:36,387 IT'S REAL PICTURES. 543 01:27:36,389 --> 01:27:38,255 THAT'S A REAL SKULL. 544 01:27:40,325 --> 01:27:43,661 YOU ALL RIGHT OVER THERE? 545 01:27:43,663 --> 01:27:46,997 I MAKE YOU NERVOUS? 546 01:27:46,999 --> 01:27:48,933 HAVE YOU EVER HURT ANYBODY? 547 01:27:48,935 --> 01:27:50,935 [ HEARTBEAT ] 548 01:27:59,211 --> 01:28:01,145 St. Angelo: DOES IT BOTHER YOU TO LOOK AT THIS? 549 01:28:01,147 --> 01:28:03,014 Man: NO, NOT REALLY. 550 01:28:03,016 --> 01:28:05,550 THAT IS JUST A PICTURE. 551 01:28:05,552 --> 01:28:07,552 IT'S REAL PICTURES. 552 01:28:07,554 --> 01:28:09,553 THAT'S A REAL SKULL. 553 01:28:09,555 --> 01:28:12,557 ¶ 554 01:28:16,094 --> 01:28:17,294 I -- 555 01:28:17,296 --> 01:28:21,165 FOR WHATEVER, I CAN'T SAY I HAVE. 556 01:28:21,167 --> 01:28:22,900 I'M NOT BEING CYNICAL ABOUT ANYTHING, 557 01:28:22,902 --> 01:28:25,303 BUT DO YOU FIND HER ATTRACTIVE? 558 01:28:27,973 --> 01:28:30,174 NOT REALLY. 559 01:28:30,176 --> 01:28:32,643 HAVE YOU EVER HIT A WOMAN BEFORE? 560 01:28:34,780 --> 01:28:36,380 NOPE. 561 01:28:36,382 --> 01:28:39,250 WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SUBMIT A DNA SAMPLE, 562 01:28:39,252 --> 01:28:41,185 -REFERENCE SAMPLE TO US? -MM-HMM. 563 01:28:41,187 --> 01:28:42,920 OR HELP US WITH OUR INVESTIGATION? 564 01:28:42,922 --> 01:28:44,722 -NO, I WOULDN'T MIND. -ALL RIGHT. 565 01:28:47,926 --> 01:28:49,126 WHAT'S Y'ALL THOUGHTS? 566 01:28:49,128 --> 01:28:51,128 I THINK HE'S COLD-HEARTED. 567 01:28:51,130 --> 01:28:53,130 I MEAN, THEM PICTURES DIDN'T BOTHER HIM A BIT. 568 01:28:53,132 --> 01:28:54,732 I THINK HE'S ASHAMED OF WHAT DID. 569 01:28:54,734 --> 01:28:56,601 HE DIDN'T WANT TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT, 570 01:28:56,603 --> 01:29:00,337 BUT I DON'T LIKE THE WAY HE LOOKED AT THAT PICTURE. 571 01:29:00,339 --> 01:29:01,939 ALL WE CAN DO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME 572 01:29:01,941 --> 01:29:06,210 IS GET DNA FROM OUR SUSPECT AND WAIT FOR THE RESULTS. 573 01:29:06,212 --> 01:29:08,812 WE LOOKING AT PROBABLY TWO MALE SUSPECTS. 574 01:29:08,814 --> 01:29:12,350 SO, SOONER OR LATER, SOMEBODY'S GONNA BREAK. 575 01:29:17,422 --> 01:29:20,558 IT'S HELL WHEN YOU HIT A DEAD END. 576 01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:21,826 BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS 577 01:29:21,828 --> 01:29:25,095 WHEN YOU WORK A CASE 18 YEARS OLD LIKE THIS ONE. 578 01:29:25,097 --> 01:29:28,032 HERE, CHICK, CHICK, CHICK, CHICK, CHICK, CHICK, CHICK. 579 01:29:28,034 --> 01:29:31,902 I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE A JOB. I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A MISSION. 580 01:29:31,904 --> 01:29:35,640 I WOULD DO ANYTHING TO FULFILL MY PROMISE. 581 01:29:35,642 --> 01:29:39,710 I OWE THE FAMILY THE TRUTH OF WHO KILLED THEY DAUGHTER. 582 01:29:39,712 --> 01:29:42,113 [ Ringing ] 583 01:29:42,115 --> 01:29:43,447 HI, CURTIS. 584 01:29:43,449 --> 01:29:45,316 RODIE SANCHEZ. HOW ARE YOU? 585 01:29:45,318 --> 01:29:47,318 CURTIS: Doing well, doing well, Rodie. 586 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,054 TRIED CALLING YOUR MAMA. 587 01:29:50,056 --> 01:29:52,990 I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CALL. I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT HER. 588 01:29:52,992 --> 01:29:54,392 HOW'S SHE DOING? 589 01:29:54,394 --> 01:29:57,128 She has some good days and some bad days. 590 01:29:57,130 --> 01:29:59,530 We've had a lot of tragedy in the family. 591 01:29:59,532 --> 01:30:02,199 Eugenie's death was tough on Mom, 592 01:30:02,201 --> 01:30:04,201 so it's a lot of time to heal. 593 01:30:04,203 --> 01:30:10,007 I DON'T EVER STOP THINKING ABOUT EUGENIE AND THAT DAY. 594 01:30:10,009 --> 01:30:12,343 Is there new evidence or...? 595 01:30:12,345 --> 01:30:16,347 NO, BUDDY. NOTHING SINCE WE LAST TALKED. 596 01:30:16,349 --> 01:30:19,216 I'M FIXING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT FOR US -- 597 01:30:19,218 --> 01:30:21,218 IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I AM. 598 01:30:21,220 --> 01:30:22,619 Mom would be happy to know 599 01:30:22,621 --> 01:30:27,558 that maybe there's some closure to this after all these years. 600 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,161 I AGREE. CLOSURE WOULD BE GOOD. 601 01:30:30,163 --> 01:30:31,362 YES. 602 01:30:31,364 --> 01:30:32,830 I hope you'll stay in touch with me 603 01:30:32,832 --> 01:30:34,965 and let me know how things have been going. 604 01:30:34,967 --> 01:30:37,701 GIVE MOM MY LOVE, AND BYE-BYE. 605 01:30:37,703 --> 01:30:42,106 Rodie, thanks very much. We'll talk soon. 606 01:30:42,108 --> 01:30:44,709 ¶ 607 01:30:47,712 --> 01:30:48,913 [ Ringing ] 608 01:30:48,915 --> 01:30:50,514 RODIE: What you say, Maj? 609 01:30:50,516 --> 01:30:53,250 Hebert: YOU NEED TO HEAD BACK OUT TO THAT CRIME SCENE AGAIN, RODIE. 610 01:30:53,252 --> 01:30:55,653 AND THERE'LL BE A COMPANY OUT THERE YOU'RE GONNA MEET UP WITH 611 01:30:55,655 --> 01:30:57,188 CALLED AQUA SURVEY. 612 01:30:57,190 --> 01:30:58,389 I talked to the Sheriff, 613 01:30:58,391 --> 01:31:00,858 and he gave me his blessing, said, "Hey, go for it." 614 01:31:00,860 --> 01:31:02,593 Let's see if they can find anything 615 01:31:02,595 --> 01:31:05,129 that possibly could have been used as a murder weapon 616 01:31:05,131 --> 01:31:06,664 back in that time. 617 01:31:06,666 --> 01:31:08,065 HEY, GOOD, GOOD. 618 01:31:08,067 --> 01:31:11,402 OKAY, I'LL HEAD ACROSS THERE NOW. 619 01:31:11,404 --> 01:31:15,339 IT'S A LONG SHOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WELL WORTH TRYING. 620 01:31:20,211 --> 01:31:21,879 St. Angelo: IN '97, WHAT DID Y'ALL USE 621 01:31:21,881 --> 01:31:23,547 TO LOOK FOR A MURDER WEAPON BACK THEN? 622 01:31:23,549 --> 01:31:26,750 CADAVER DOGS AND DIVERS. 623 01:31:26,752 --> 01:31:28,952 OTHER THAN THAT, WE USUALLY -- 624 01:31:28,954 --> 01:31:31,021 [ SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY ] 625 01:31:31,023 --> 01:31:32,556 WEIGHT ON THE END OF A ROPE, BUDDY. 626 01:31:32,558 --> 01:31:34,291 YEAH, A WEIGHT ON THE END OF A ROPE, HUH? 627 01:31:34,293 --> 01:31:35,626 -YEAH. -POPPING, HUH? 628 01:31:35,628 --> 01:31:37,227 THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL. 629 01:31:37,229 --> 01:31:39,630 I HOPE THIS TECHNOLOGY WE GOT NOW, WE CAN FIND IT. 630 01:31:39,632 --> 01:31:41,832 AND IF WE FIND IT, HEY, THANK GOD. 631 01:31:41,834 --> 01:31:44,435 JUST AS LONG AS WE FIND IT AND CAN SOLVE THE CASE -- 632 01:31:44,437 --> 01:31:45,503 THAT'S MY MAIN THING. 633 01:31:45,505 --> 01:31:47,037 MM-HMM. 634 01:31:56,781 --> 01:31:58,716 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 635 01:31:58,718 --> 01:32:00,451 OKAY. THIS WOULD BE THE SPOT. 636 01:32:00,453 --> 01:32:02,453 -RIGHT HERE? -YEAH. 637 01:32:02,455 --> 01:32:06,056 ¶ 638 01:32:06,058 --> 01:32:08,592 I CAN STILL SEE HER LAYING HERE. 639 01:32:08,594 --> 01:32:11,128 I CAN SEE HER CLEAR AS DAY. 640 01:32:11,130 --> 01:32:14,198 St. Angelo: WE NEED SOMETHING TO HELP US NARROW DOWN OUR SEARCH. 641 01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,468 AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING OUT AT BAYOU MANCHAC. 642 01:32:17,470 --> 01:32:19,403 I MEAN, IT'S HARD ENOUGH AS IT IS 643 01:32:19,405 --> 01:32:22,807 TO COMMIT A CRIME AND NOT MAKE A MISTAKE. 644 01:32:22,809 --> 01:32:24,208 IT'S VERY UNLIKELY. 645 01:32:24,210 --> 01:32:26,543 Rodie: APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING BY TO CALL. 646 01:32:26,545 --> 01:32:28,746 LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BRIEFING. 647 01:32:28,748 --> 01:32:33,150 EUGENIE WAS FOUND PROBABLY... 648 01:32:33,152 --> 01:32:35,686 JUST HEAD THIS WAY, FEET THIS WAY 649 01:32:35,688 --> 01:32:38,756 IN THIS AREA ABOUT RIGHT HERE. 650 01:32:38,758 --> 01:32:43,360 WE NEVER FOUND THE WEAPON THAT ACTUALLY KILLED HER. 651 01:32:43,362 --> 01:32:47,231 SHE HAD SOME BLUNT TRAUMA TO THE BACK OF THE SKULL. 652 01:32:47,233 --> 01:32:49,566 Man: WHAT KIND OF MURDER WEAPON ARE WE LOOKING FOR? 653 01:32:49,568 --> 01:32:52,970 I WOULD SAY EITHER A HAMMER OR A TIRE TOOL. 654 01:32:52,972 --> 01:32:55,306 St. Angelo: SOMETHING PROBABLY SHARP, COMPACT, 655 01:32:55,308 --> 01:32:57,508 STRONG METAL OBJECT, MAYBE. 656 01:32:57,510 --> 01:33:00,043 -SO SHE WAS HIT PRETTY HARD. -OH, YES. 657 01:33:00,045 --> 01:33:03,514 IT HAD TO BE SWUNG WITH ENOUGH FORCE AND CARRY ENOUGH BLUNT 658 01:33:03,516 --> 01:33:05,850 TO BREAK THE SKULL THROUGH AND THROUGH. 659 01:33:05,852 --> 01:33:06,984 WOW. WOW. 660 01:33:06,986 --> 01:33:10,988 'CAUSE IT CRACKED THE INSIDE, AS WELL. 661 01:33:10,990 --> 01:33:13,257 I WANT TO COVER EVERY INCH OF THIS 662 01:33:13,259 --> 01:33:18,795 FROM THAT TREE BACK THERE TO MAYBE THAT TREE OVER THERE. 663 01:33:18,797 --> 01:33:20,998 JUST TURN OVER EVERY LEAF, EVERY STICK, 664 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,067 EVERY BOTTLE, EVERY BRANCH -- 665 01:33:23,069 --> 01:33:26,070 ANYTHING WE COULD FIND PERTAINING TO MY CASE. 666 01:33:26,072 --> 01:33:28,472 -APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. -LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. 667 01:33:28,474 --> 01:33:31,742 -LET'S DO IT. -OKAY. 668 01:33:31,744 --> 01:33:34,144 St. Angelo: HOW Y'ALL GONNA GET IT DONE EXACTLY, SCOTT? 669 01:33:34,146 --> 01:33:36,080 Scott: WELL, FIRST OFF, I WANT TO DO A SWEEP 670 01:33:36,082 --> 01:33:38,282 AND CLEAR OFF ANY SURFACE CLUTTER WE SEE. 671 01:33:38,284 --> 01:33:39,950 Man: BE CAREFUL, NOW. 672 01:33:39,952 --> 01:33:42,953 AND ERIC AND I ARE GONNA SET UP A TWO-MAN CARRY PLATFORM. 673 01:33:42,955 --> 01:33:46,156 THERE WE GO. STANDING UP. OKAY. 674 01:33:46,158 --> 01:33:47,891 AND WE'RE GONNA SET UP SURVEY LINES, 675 01:33:47,893 --> 01:33:50,561 AND WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THAT TRYING TO COVER 100%. 676 01:33:53,632 --> 01:33:55,232 AND YOU JUST PICK IT UP AND CARRY. 677 01:33:55,234 --> 01:33:57,568 -RIGHT. -GOTCHA. 678 01:33:57,570 --> 01:33:58,769 GOTCHA. 679 01:33:58,771 --> 01:34:00,704 ALL RIGHT. I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE HERE. 680 01:34:00,706 --> 01:34:02,105 -HOW YOU FEELING? -GOOD. 681 01:34:02,107 --> 01:34:05,242 ALL RIGHT. LET'S TURN AROUND. 682 01:34:05,244 --> 01:34:08,779 Scott: WE CAN TAKE THE DATA THAT WE'RE RECORDING, ANALYZE IT, 683 01:34:08,781 --> 01:34:10,514 AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A GOOD TARGET LIST 684 01:34:10,516 --> 01:34:12,850 THAT WE CAN WORK OFF OF FINDING HIGH-PRIORITY TARGETS, 685 01:34:12,852 --> 01:34:15,919 SOMETHING THAT MIGHT MATCH UP WITH A MURDER WEAPON. 686 01:34:19,591 --> 01:34:20,791 [ DEVICE BEEPING ] 687 01:34:20,793 --> 01:34:22,526 COUPLE TARGETS RIGHT THERE. 688 01:34:25,863 --> 01:34:27,598 [ BEEPS ] 689 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:28,666 YES, SIR. 690 01:34:28,668 --> 01:34:30,467 OKAY, SO, WE SURVEYED THIS WHOLE AREA. 691 01:34:30,469 --> 01:34:32,136 -OKAY. -EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, 692 01:34:32,138 --> 01:34:34,605 WE CALL THESE THE BLOOMS, THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BLOOMS. 693 01:34:34,607 --> 01:34:38,475 THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A METAL OBJECT. 694 01:34:38,477 --> 01:34:40,210 THESE ARE A HIGH PRIORITIZED TARGET. 695 01:34:40,212 --> 01:34:41,345 THAT COULD BE A HAMMER. 696 01:34:41,347 --> 01:34:43,280 THAT COULD BE A TIRE IRON, ALL RIGHT? 697 01:34:43,282 --> 01:34:45,616 -SO, THERE'S TWO. -MM-HMM. 698 01:34:45,618 --> 01:34:48,485 -THREE. FOUR. -RIGHT. THREE, FOUR. 699 01:34:48,487 --> 01:34:49,553 -FIVE. -FIVE. 700 01:34:49,555 --> 01:34:51,021 -OH, LOOK AT THAT. -YEAH. YEAH. 701 01:34:51,023 --> 01:34:52,890 COUPLE MORE ALL THE WAY UP AT THE END HERE. 702 01:34:52,892 --> 01:34:53,891 YEAH. 703 01:34:53,893 --> 01:34:57,761 THOSE, GENTLEMEN, COULD BE A HAMMER. 704 01:34:57,763 --> 01:35:00,364 [ BEEPING ] 705 01:35:18,783 --> 01:35:22,185 DUDE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH ALL THAT BUTTER? 706 01:35:22,187 --> 01:35:24,321 YOU CAN HEAR YOUR ARTERIES CLOGGING UP NOW. 707 01:35:24,323 --> 01:35:26,256 THEY -- [ BURBLES ] 708 01:35:26,258 --> 01:35:28,392 BUT THIS OPENS YOUR ARTERIES UP. 709 01:35:28,394 --> 01:35:30,127 THAT DOESN'T OPEN YOUR ARTERIES UP. 710 01:35:30,129 --> 01:35:32,129 LET'S THE BLOOD SLIDE THROUGH THERE, HUH? 711 01:35:32,131 --> 01:35:34,264 SPEEDS IT UP AS IT GOES THROUGH THE ARTERIES? 712 01:35:34,266 --> 01:35:35,733 GOOD POINT, MAJOR. 713 01:35:35,735 --> 01:35:37,801 St. Angelo: I KNOW HIS HEALTH IS A BIG ISSUE. 714 01:35:37,803 --> 01:35:39,136 HE HIDES THAT WELL. 715 01:35:39,138 --> 01:35:41,471 BUT, I MEAN, I SEE STRAIGHT THROUGH IT. 716 01:35:41,473 --> 01:35:42,939 CAN YOU ORDER HIM TO EAT BETTER 717 01:35:42,941 --> 01:35:44,875 IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT US ON THIS CASE TOGETHER? 718 01:35:44,877 --> 01:35:46,076 WHAT I CAN TELL HIM -- 719 01:35:46,078 --> 01:35:48,145 I SAY, "DUDE, IS YOUR HEALTH GONNA HOLD UP?" 720 01:35:48,147 --> 01:35:50,748 HERE HE IS SHOVING DOWN 8 POUNDS OF BUTTER. 721 01:35:50,750 --> 01:35:53,083 -I WANT YOU TO EAT SOME FRUIT. -AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. 722 01:35:53,085 --> 01:35:55,952 AT 61 YEARS OLD, AIN'T NEVER ATE A PIECE OF FRUIT. 723 01:35:55,954 --> 01:35:57,554 [ CHUCKLES ] YOU PROBABLY RIGHT, TOO. 724 01:35:57,556 --> 01:35:59,556 -I HAVEN'T! -THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 725 01:36:10,902 --> 01:36:14,037 Scott: NEXT STEP IS WE'RE GONNA AROUND TO EACH ONE OF THESE LOCATIONS. 726 01:36:14,039 --> 01:36:16,774 WE'RE GONNA PIN IT, WE'RE GONNA FLAG IT, AND WE'RE GONNA DIG IT. 727 01:36:16,776 --> 01:36:18,508 -LET'S DO IT. -OKAY. 728 01:36:21,513 --> 01:36:24,314 [ METAL DETECTOR BEEPING ] 729 01:36:24,316 --> 01:36:25,916 ONE AND TWO ARE RIGHT OVER HERE. 730 01:36:25,918 --> 01:36:29,453 STICK YOUR SHOVEL IN THERE, YOU'RE GONNA HIT SOMETHING. 731 01:36:29,455 --> 01:36:30,787 WIRE? 732 01:36:30,789 --> 01:36:32,389 -WHAT DO WE GOT THERE? -BARBED WIRE. 733 01:36:32,391 --> 01:36:34,925 OH, YEAH. YEAH, LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE. 734 01:36:34,927 --> 01:36:37,327 [ BEEPS ] GOT SOMETHING RIGHT HERE. 735 01:36:39,864 --> 01:36:40,998 [ SHOVEL SCRAPES ] 736 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:45,402 Rodie: OH, HIT SOMETHING, AUBREY. 737 01:36:45,404 --> 01:36:47,270 GRILL. 738 01:36:47,272 --> 01:36:51,875 -THERE WE GO. -AH, THERE IT IS. 739 01:36:51,877 --> 01:36:53,677 [ BEEPS ] 740 01:36:53,679 --> 01:36:55,679 IT'S JUST ONE THING LEFT RIGHT THERE. 741 01:36:55,681 --> 01:36:57,347 HIGH-PRIORITY TARGET NUMBER 4. 742 01:36:57,349 --> 01:36:59,883 START DIGGING IN HERE AND SEE WHAT WE GOT. 743 01:37:01,820 --> 01:37:03,353 THERE'S SOMETHING METAL RIGHT HERE. 744 01:37:03,355 --> 01:37:04,821 YEAH, THERE IS SURE ENOUGH. 745 01:37:04,823 --> 01:37:06,490 GO RIGHT HERE. 746 01:37:06,492 --> 01:37:09,693 ¶ 747 01:37:12,363 --> 01:37:16,366 WHAT DO WE GOT? 748 01:37:16,368 --> 01:37:21,037 LOOK LIKE AN OLD SHACKLE FOR A CHAIN THAT'S RUN THROUGH. 749 01:37:21,039 --> 01:37:25,309 IT'S BLUNT. IT COULD BE USED. I COULD KILL SOMEBODY WITH THIS. 750 01:37:25,311 --> 01:37:26,710 COULD DO SOME DAMAGE. 751 01:37:26,712 --> 01:37:30,114 IT'S GOT A POINT ON IT. THAT SPOT ON THE SKULL MAYBE. 752 01:37:30,116 --> 01:37:32,849 SO THAT COULD BE THE MURDER WEAPON. 753 01:37:32,851 --> 01:37:34,251 WE'LL GET LORI TO TAKE LOOK AT IT 754 01:37:34,253 --> 01:37:36,320 AND SEE WHAT SHE CAN DO WITH IT. 755 01:37:41,592 --> 01:37:43,327 Rodie: WE HAVE MAY HAVE A MURDER WEAPON. 756 01:37:43,329 --> 01:37:45,796 BUT IN ORDER TO ME TO SOLVE A CASE, 757 01:37:45,798 --> 01:37:47,330 IT'S GONNA TAKE THE RIGHT PERSON 758 01:37:47,332 --> 01:37:49,466 TO OPEN HIS MOUTH AND SPEAK ABOUT IT. 759 01:37:49,468 --> 01:37:53,337 YOU NEVER KNOW WHO A MURDERER IS. 760 01:37:53,339 --> 01:37:55,739 IT COULD BE YOU NEIGHBOR. 761 01:37:55,741 --> 01:37:58,542 WHO KNOWS? IT COULD BE YOUR BEST FRIEND. 762 01:37:58,544 --> 01:38:01,211 [ Beep ] Hi, Rodie. It's Kathy. 763 01:38:01,213 --> 01:38:03,147 The last time that we met, 764 01:38:03,149 --> 01:38:06,149 it kind of stirred up some more memories. 765 01:38:06,151 --> 01:38:08,552 Can we meet up again? 766 01:38:08,554 --> 01:38:12,823 DID SHE EVER TELL YOU OF ANYONE THAT SHE WAS DATING? 767 01:38:12,825 --> 01:38:16,426 I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER IF SHE DID OR NOT. 768 01:38:18,163 --> 01:38:21,832 I'M GLAD YOU CALLED ME AND WANTED TO MEET WITH ME. 769 01:38:21,834 --> 01:38:23,634 WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? 770 01:38:23,636 --> 01:38:27,371 WELL, I'D GONE TO VISIT HER ON MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, 771 01:38:27,373 --> 01:38:30,240 TWO WEEKS BEFORE SHE DISAPPEARED. 772 01:38:30,242 --> 01:38:33,577 SHE TOLD ME SHE HAD BEEN SEEING SOMEBODY. 773 01:38:33,579 --> 01:38:37,581 SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS DATING A GUY CALLED ROBERT. 774 01:38:37,583 --> 01:38:39,183 WAIT A MINUTE. 775 01:38:39,185 --> 01:38:41,518 SO, SHE WAS DATING SOMEONE? 776 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,587 YEAH, SHE WAS REALLY EXCITED. 777 01:38:43,589 --> 01:38:45,722 DID SHE SAY HOW LONG SHE WAS DATING THIS GUY? 778 01:38:45,724 --> 01:38:48,125 I JUST REMEMBER THAT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER DATE 779 01:38:48,127 --> 01:38:51,862 AT THE ALLIGATOR BAR. 780 01:38:51,864 --> 01:38:54,131 DID YOU EVER SEE HER IN YOUR ESTABLISHMENT? 781 01:38:54,133 --> 01:38:56,867 I DON'T REMEMBER HER. I DON'T REMEMBER HER. 782 01:38:56,869 --> 01:39:00,670 Fox: IT WASN'T A PLACE THAT EUGENIE WOULD USUALLY GO. 783 01:39:00,672 --> 01:39:02,806 YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON THAT EVER TOLD US 784 01:39:02,808 --> 01:39:06,343 ANYTHING ABOUT HER DATING OR GOING ON A DATE. 785 01:39:06,345 --> 01:39:08,745 SHE DIDN'T GIVE YOU ANY LAST NAME 786 01:39:08,747 --> 01:39:11,481 OR TELL YOU WHAT HE DID OR WHAT KIND OF WORK? 787 01:39:11,483 --> 01:39:13,817 YEAH, SEE, I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THAT. 788 01:39:13,819 --> 01:39:19,022 ANYONE ELSE I CAN TALK TO ABOUT ROBERT OR...? 789 01:39:19,024 --> 01:39:20,357 WELL, FERBEE. 790 01:39:20,359 --> 01:39:22,292 YEAH, WHAT ABOUT HER? 791 01:39:22,294 --> 01:39:24,094 SHE WAS IN THE SORORITY WITH US. 792 01:39:24,096 --> 01:39:25,695 HOW COULD I GET IN TOUCH WITH HER? 793 01:39:25,697 --> 01:39:28,164 -I THINK SHE DIED OF CANCER. -OH. 794 01:39:28,166 --> 01:39:30,834 BUT SHE AND EUGENIE AT THE TIME WERE CLOSE. 795 01:39:30,836 --> 01:39:33,436 SHE CONFIDED IN FERBEE A PRETTY GOOD BIT. 796 01:39:33,438 --> 01:39:34,704 OH, YEAH. 797 01:39:34,706 --> 01:39:37,774 DOES FERBEE HAVE ANY FAMILY I CAN TALK TO? 798 01:39:37,776 --> 01:39:39,109 SHE DID HAVE A DAUGHTER. 799 01:39:44,048 --> 01:39:48,051 St. Angelo: WE GOT SOMETHING. 800 01:39:48,053 --> 01:39:49,519 Morgan: WHOA. 801 01:39:49,521 --> 01:39:51,521 I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT IT IS. IT LOOKS FAMILIAR, 802 01:39:51,523 --> 01:39:53,323 LIKE I'VE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE, 803 01:39:53,325 --> 01:39:56,793 MAYBE IN THE CATTLE OR HORSE INDUSTRY, LIKE A COUPLING. 804 01:39:56,795 --> 01:39:58,662 OR MAYBE IT'S A STRETCHED-OUT LINK. 805 01:39:58,664 --> 01:40:00,731 SO, ARE YOU THINKING IN TERMS OF, LIKE, 806 01:40:00,733 --> 01:40:02,466 BLUNT-FORCE TRAUMA TO THE HEAD? 807 01:40:02,468 --> 01:40:03,867 -RIGHT. -THE TOOL USED? 808 01:40:03,869 --> 01:40:06,136 IT WAS RIGHT WHERE THE CRIME SCENE COULD HAVE BEEN. 809 01:40:06,138 --> 01:40:07,470 AND, OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SEE... 810 01:40:07,472 --> 01:40:09,139 LOOK AT THAT EDGE RIGHT THERE. 811 01:40:09,141 --> 01:40:10,807 ...WHAT KIND OF TRAUMA THIS COULD CAUSE. 812 01:40:10,809 --> 01:40:12,142 YEAH, 'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING 813 01:40:12,144 --> 01:40:15,412 THAT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD HAVE MADE THIS INJURY. 814 01:40:15,414 --> 01:40:19,082 THIS SURFACE RIGHT HERE, THAT'S OBLONG AND OVAL. 815 01:40:19,084 --> 01:40:22,152 HERE'S A DIAGRAM OF THE INJURY. 816 01:40:22,154 --> 01:40:25,956 AND IT'S JUST A PERFECTLY OVAL AREA. 817 01:40:25,958 --> 01:40:28,158 IF YOU COULD JUST MAYBE GET THE WITH THE LAB. 818 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,760 IT WAS RIGHT THERE -- IT WAS IN THE GROUND WHERE THE BODY IS. 819 01:40:30,762 --> 01:40:33,029 THE TOOL DEPARTMENT COULD MAYBE GIVE US 820 01:40:33,031 --> 01:40:35,365 SOME KIND OF I.D. ON THIS. 821 01:40:35,367 --> 01:40:37,500 THIS CASE IS SOLVABLE. 822 01:40:37,502 --> 01:40:39,502 BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE THE RIGHT LEAD. 823 01:40:39,504 --> 01:40:40,971 IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST. 824 01:40:40,973 --> 01:40:43,373 YOU HAVE TO EXHAUST EVERY LEAD -- GOOD OR BAD. 825 01:40:43,375 --> 01:40:46,510 THAT'S YOUR JOB AS DETECTIVE. 826 01:40:46,512 --> 01:40:51,515 ¶ 827 01:40:51,517 --> 01:40:55,185 WHAT I'M HERE FOR IS TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EUGENIE. 828 01:40:55,187 --> 01:40:59,055 MY MOM AND HER WERE SORORITY SISTERS AT LSU. 829 01:40:59,057 --> 01:41:02,659 AND THEY REMAINED FRIENDS AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS. 830 01:41:02,661 --> 01:41:04,060 BUT SHE ALWAYS SEEMED PRIVATE, 831 01:41:04,062 --> 01:41:06,796 AND SHE ALWAYS SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS JUST KIND OF SOMETHING 832 01:41:06,798 --> 01:41:09,266 SHE DIDN'T WANT TO, LIKE, LET ON TO. 833 01:41:09,268 --> 01:41:11,268 ONE CONVERSATION I DO REMEMBER THEM HAVING -- 834 01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:13,403 'CAUSE ME AND MY SISTER WERE THERE -- 835 01:41:13,405 --> 01:41:17,741 WAS MY MOM WAS GETTING ONTO HER FOR BEING SO PRIVATE. 836 01:41:17,743 --> 01:41:20,610 SHE WAS DATING A GUY BY THE NAME OF ROBERT. 837 01:41:17,743 --> 01:41:22,345 ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? 838 01:41:22,347 --> 01:41:24,681 THAT WAS WHY THEY WERE GETTING IN A FIGHT. 839 01:41:26,684 --> 01:41:29,086 WE WERE HELPING HER GET READY FOR A DATE WITH ROBERT, 840 01:41:29,088 --> 01:41:32,356 AND SHE WOULDN'T GIVE MY MOM ANY KIND OF INFORMATION ABOUT HIM, 841 01:41:32,358 --> 01:41:33,623 WHERE THEY WERE GOING. 842 01:41:33,625 --> 01:41:36,359 DIDN'T SAY ROBERT'S LAST NAME OR WHAT ROBERT DID? 843 01:41:36,361 --> 01:41:37,627 NO. NOTHING. SHE WAS WORRIED. 844 01:41:37,629 --> 01:41:39,496 -WHO THIS GUY WAS... -SHE HAD NO IDEA. 845 01:41:39,498 --> 01:41:42,766 -YEAH. DID SHE EVER GO? -MM-HMM. SHE DID. 846 01:41:42,768 --> 01:41:45,835 I HATE TO EVEN SAY IT, BECAUSE I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW 847 01:41:45,837 --> 01:41:47,838 IF MY MEMORY'S SERVING ME EXACTLY CORRECT, 848 01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:49,573 BUT I REALLY WANT TO SAY 849 01:41:49,575 --> 01:41:53,376 THAT THAT WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE SHE WENT MISSING. 850 01:41:53,378 --> 01:41:54,578 WOW. 851 01:41:54,580 --> 01:41:57,247 ONE OF THE THINGS MY MOM SAID -- SHE WAS JUST LIKE, 852 01:41:57,249 --> 01:42:00,917 "I'M PRETTY SURE WE HELPED HER GET READY FOR HER MURDER." 853 01:42:00,919 --> 01:42:03,653 WE GOT A NAME NOW -- ROBERT. 854 01:42:03,655 --> 01:42:06,790 WE GONNA FIND ROBERT IF IT'S THE LAST THING WE DO. 855 01:42:10,661 --> 01:42:12,729 Hebert: I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THIS IS THE WEAPON. 856 01:42:12,731 --> 01:42:14,664 St. Angelo: I COULD KILL SOMEBODY WITH THIS. 857 01:42:14,666 --> 01:42:16,933 HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF ANYBODY BY THE NAME OF ROBERT 858 01:42:16,935 --> 01:42:19,069 THAT EUGENIE MAY HAVE BEEN SEEING? 859 01:42:19,071 --> 01:42:20,737 WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A LAST NAME, 860 01:42:20,739 --> 01:42:22,539 NOR DO WE EVEN HAVE A DESCRIPTION. 861 01:42:22,541 --> 01:42:25,608 HOW MANY ROBERTS YOU THINK THEY GOT LIVING IN EAST BATON ROUGE? 862 01:42:25,610 --> 01:42:26,610 [BLEEP] 863 01:42:26,612 --> 01:42:27,944 THIS IS ROBERT. I KNOW THAT. 864 01:42:27,946 --> 01:42:29,746 Rodie: LET'S GO GET HIM. 865 01:42:29,748 --> 01:42:31,081 St. Angelo: YEAH, THAT'S HIM. 866 01:42:31,083 --> 01:42:32,749 WE'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU A MINUTE, SIR. 867 01:42:32,751 --> 01:42:34,284 [ ELEVATOR DINGS ] WELL, LOOK AT IT. 868 01:42:34,286 --> 01:42:36,286 -I'M LOOKING AT IT. -DON'T REMEMBER THAT, EITHER? 869 01:42:36,288 --> 01:42:38,822 Man: THE DUDE'S GOT [BLEEP] SELECTIVE AMNESIA. 870 01:42:38,824 --> 01:42:41,624 A LOT OF TIMES, YOU JUST WANT TO GIVE UP AND STOP. 871 01:42:41,626 --> 01:42:45,028 Man: BEHIND THAT CHURCH IS A HORRIBLE-ASS SMELL. 872 01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:46,430 SOMETHING DEAD. 873 01:42:46,432 --> 01:42:48,965 IF THAT'S A KID, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DEAL, BRO.